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Over the years, off-road capable SUVs and trucks have become complex machines. From electronic differentials and transfer cases to full-time all-wheel drive systems that are easy to operate but difficult to understand, these new 4x4s are supposed to be better in every way, but are they?

On this episode of the Hemmings Hot Rod BBQ Podcast, Mike Musto sits down with Ryan Douthit and Nick Cappetto of Drivings Sports TV, two guys who make a living reviewing OEM off-roaders, to see if newer is actually better, or if the older analog systems from yesteryear are the way to go.

So, grab a beverage or sit back in your favorite easy chair, because the BBQ is about to begin!

Ever lock eyes on someone and, though you’ve never met, you’re sure that you know them from somewhere? Celebrities have stories like this all the time—particularly when they’re mistaken for another celebrity. But it happens to us plebes in the weeds as well. Unsurprisingly, it happens with cars, too. And sometimes it all works out for the best.

Sadly, little is currently known about this ’69 Camaro SS/RS convertible’s former life or owner(s); the only information that’s come to light is that it was built in the Norwood, Ohio, plant in December of ’68, was delivered in or near Memphis, Tennessee, and was owned by a schoolteacher. “Paperwork was lacking,” its restorer, Shaun Price, of Shaun Price Restorations in Gilbert, Arizona, tells us. This may well have been because Shaun’s client, owner Al Serrato of Temecula, California, bought a car that was essentially in pieces— torn down by a previous owner who either misplaced or chucked its records.

Color closeup of the Camaro script on a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS/RS convertible, above head lamp, driver side.

Photo by Jeff Koch

And like that person you feel you know but you can’t remember from where, this Camaro also looked strangely familiar. “We saw the Camaro for sale online in 2011 and ’12; the seller had it up there for months as an unfinished project at an exorbitant price,” Shaun recalls. “It wasn’t abandoned—I think he ran out of money and/or interest, and that was probably the catalyst for sale.” Al and Shaun were interested—a factory red Camaro SS/RS convertible is bound to get the interest of quite a few collectors. But at the $85,000 asking price, it sat. And sat. Every now and again, the price would drop by ten grand. “And one day,” Shaun says, “it disappeared from the site. Either the seller had given up, or it had sold.”

Now, Shaun has a neighbor who occasionally flips cars for fun and profit, so haulers dropping cars off there is never a big deal. “He came over and asked if I’d help the transport driver get the car out—it was just a rolling chassis and had no brakes. We get it out of the transporter and the lightbulb blinks on.” No fair guessing whether it was this very Camaro they’d been watching—it was. “My neighbor bought it in… let’s call it an emotional moment. He’s known for paying too much for things. But Al and I had watched this car for months online, and now it’s here in front of me in my neighbor’s yard. I mean, what are the odds?”

Color closeup of the tail lamp assembly and Camaro script on the trunk of a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS/RS Convertible.

Rally Sport package included unique taillamp lenses with horizontal split and separate reverse lamps.Photo by Jeff Koch

Shaun now had a chance to look first-hand at the car that he was hemming and hawing over previously. “I could see what we had and didn’t have, unlike reading a description in an ad and having to hop on a plane to go look at it. What we saw was a rolling car, fairly complete, but it needed a correct restoration in order to be finished. It had been painted and that’s where it stopped. Everything on it was date-coded correctly. All of the panels had original date-codes stamped when we got them, so everything was in line — nothing we found was a service-replacement item. Anything that had a date on it lined up with the car. The trunk floor was original, but I bet someone put floors in it; I can’t confirm that, though. Whoever did the work on the body and the paint did a nice job.”

It was a Camaro like one Al had been looking for. It was all there, all correct and complete. At Al’s urging, Shaun pulled the trigger. “I told my neighbor, ‘You paid how much? I’ll give you ten percent more right now.’” The deal was done, and they rolled it into Shaun’s workshop across the street. The goal, as it was with all of Al’s cars, was to get it as close to showroom-correct as could be managed.

Color closeup of the hood vents on a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS/RS convertible.

Super Sport package included a special domed hood with chrome inserts.Photo by Jeff Koch

Combining the SS and RS packages got a respectable amount of equipment and trim goodies. The SS included the special hood with simulated air intakes and an insulation pad, the standard grille would be blacked out with most body colors, as would the rocker panels below the moldings; SS emblems would appear on the grille, fenders, and rear panel. The SS also included 14 x 7-inch wheels and F70-14 Wide-Oval tires, and the all-important chrome air cleaner lid for the standard L48-code 300-hp 350 four-barrel engine.

Meanwhile, the Rally Sport option provided the “hideaway” headlamp treatment with an alternate grille design, and the taillamp lenses had a single horizontal split, rather than the standard twin vertical segmentations. Reverse lamps moved down into the rear valence panel on the RS.

Color closeup of the engine bay in a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS/RS convertible, 350/300 small-block V-8.

Chevy’s base engine for the Camaro SS was a 10.25:1 compression, four-barrel, 300 gross horsepower, 350-cubic-inch small-block. Plenty were built with “nice car” options like automatic transmission and air conditioning.Photo by Jeff Koch

When the SS and RS packages were combined, the SS emblems bumped out the RS pieces on the grille and tail panel, and the “Rally Sport” badging that would be found on the fenders of a regular Camaro RS (or a Z/28 RS) was also left off in favor of the standard “Camaro” scripts with “SS” emblems beneath, just as they would appear on a non-RS Camaro Super Sport.

This example of the SS/RS was a highly optioned Garnet Red convertible with red interior. Shaun reports, “It has the matching-numbers engine, transmission, and rear. Well, it has the driveline it was born with, anyway. It’s got a 12-bolt 3.55:1 with Posi, because with air and automatic you couldn’t get anything as high as 3.73:1.” Also included were a plethora of options: air conditioning, tilt steering column, a power convertible top, power windows, space-saver spare, Endura front bumper, console, gauges, fiber-optic lamp monitoring, Deluxe interior, whitewall tires (which were a factory upgrade), and… an AM radio.

Color closeup of the Rochester Quadrajet carburetor in a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS/RS convertible.

Photo by Jeff Koch

“When you ordered the AM radio, you had the option to order a rear-mounted antenna,” Shaun explains. “The AM/FM radios had a fixed manual antenna on the front fender. That antenna on the rear fender would make the D80 spoiler package unavailable. I mean, it could have had the stereo 8-track, cruise control, and some other foo-foo stuff, but overall it was well-optioned, despite being a base 350-powered car.”

All of this was above and beyond the RS goodies (fender striping, hideaway headlamps with washers, the Style Trim group to add a variety of brightwork and black sills, et al) and what was mandated with the SS package (300-hp 350, floor-shift, Turbo HydraMatic in lieu of Powerglide, power front disc brakes and lots more).

Color image of the interior, dash, seats, floor, steering wheel etc. in a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS/RS convertible.

Factory red Comfortweave interior was remade with possibly the last NOS bolt of original fabric from the burned-down factory; there are options galore in here like gauges, tilt wheel, air conditioning, and more.Photo by Jeff Koch

What was missing? “Let’s put it this way: we had parts, it wasn’t missing much, and all of the important stuff was there, but the condition of the parts needed to be updated from what we acquired with the car. The quantity of NOS stuff we had to come up with to finish it was staggering.” Shaun says.

For example? “The dashpad. It needed one, and the air-conditioned cars have a specific dash pad. Lo and behold, I heard about a guy just three miles north of me who bought an NOS dashpad in the late 1970s — and it was still in the original GM box. And it was for an A/C car! Things like that happen occasionally, but it’s not that common. NOS parts are getting ever-more-difficult to find.”

Color closeup of the wheels on a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS/RS convertible.

Photo by Jeff Koch

And the lug nuts! “They’re correct assembly-line lug nuts that were used on those 14-inch SS wheels in 1969 and ’70 only. Those things are unobtainable. We paid $50 for each lug nut — that’s $1,000. For lug nuts! The guy who sold them to us had a few left afterward, and he ended up selling them for $100 apiece,” Shaun notes.

There’s more — even in places you wouldn’t think would matter. “The alignment shims are actually GM assembly-line items. Between the shims and the lug nuts, man, that’ll send you over the edge. We found what was likely the last NOS red Comfortweave material anywhere, in Detroit. The original plant that made it burned down years ago, and reproduction stuff doesn’t have the same pattern. The seatbelt webbing was tough to find NOS, too.”

Color closeup of the fender, side marker and wheel/tire on a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS/RS convertible.

Photo by Jeff Koch

Shaun continues, “Ultimately, every component had to be disassembled and redone, or else replaced. Stuff that the previous owner had done was junk — most of it either didn’t work right or simply hadn’t been addressed. This car was one of those where you had to sit there and go through everything piece by piece for it to work correctly in the end.”

Even the decent paint was given the once-over. “I had to disassemble the car, then painted both underneath and the firewall; the previous painter painted the firewall and chassis the same glossy red as the body, and I had to re-do it the way the factory did it [in black]. I also fixed some body chips and deficiencies along the way. Also, doing the blackout on the rockers, I made sure that it faded with a fuzzy line, like the factory did on the assembly line. I replicated that off an original car too, another Norwood car. We also repainted the hood and decklid thanks to poorly stored parts, where something nicked or chipped the paint.

Color closeup of the trunk and spare of a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS/RS convertible.

Photo by Jeff Koch

“On the original convertible top rear window, there should be a manufacturer’s logo and a date code that the reproductions don’t have. I found an original-top car, photographed that logo, and had that and the build date reproduced on the rear window,” Shaun says. There are even factory-style markings on the treads of the tires, which you’d think would be the first thing to wear off. Except…

“Al keeps this car in the lobby of his office,” Shaun says of the Camaro that has taken pride of place in its owner’s eyeline. It’s been there since 2014. The good news: this as-new SS/RS ’69 Camaro convertible is being enjoyed, even if it’s not wearing those tire markings off.

Color closeup of the clock in a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS/RS convertible

Photo by Jeff Koch

SPECIFICATIONS

PRICE

Base price: $2,852

Options on car profiled: Super Sport package, $507; Turbo Hydra-Matic automatic transmission, $585; Rally Sport package, $131.65; air conditioning, $376; tilt wheel, $45; power steering, $95; power brakes, $42; whitewall tires, $32; console, $54; AM radio, $61; power windows, $105; front disc brakes, $22; tinted glass, $31; gauges, $90.

ENGINE

Type: Chevrolet “small-block” OHV V-8, cast-iron block and cylinder heads

Displacement: 350 cu.in.

Bore x stroke: 4.00 x 3.48 in

Compression ratio: 10.25:1

Horsepower @ rpm: 300 @ 4,800

Torque @ rpm: 380 lb-ft @ 3,200

Valvetrain: Hydraulic lifters

Main bearings: Five

Fuel system: Rochester Quadrajet four-barrel, mechanical pump

Lubrication system: Pressure, gear-type pump

Electrical system: 12-volt

Exhaust system: Dual exhaust with transverse cross-flow muffler

TRANSMISSION

Type: GM Turbo Hydra-Matic 350 three-speed automatic

Ratios: 1st/2.48 … 2nd/1.48 … 3rd/1.00 … Reverse/2.08

DIFFERENTIAL

Type: Chevrolet 12-bolt housing, Positraction

Ratio: 3.55:1

STEERING

Type: Recirculating ball-nut, semi-reversible with hydraulic power assist

Turns, lock-to-lock: 2.8

Turning circle: 37.5 ft

BRAKES

Type: Hydraulic disc/drum with vacuum power assist

Front: 11-in disc / Rear: 9.5 x 2.0-in drum

SUSPENSION

Front: Independent, unequal length A-arms; coil springs; telescoping shock absorbers; anti-sway bar

Rear: Parallel leaf springs, telescoping shock absorbers

WHEELS & TIRES

Wheels: Styled stamped steel, drop center Front/Rear: 14 x 7 in

Tires: Bias-ply, white-stripe Front/Rear: F70-14

PRODUCTION

Chevrolet produced 16,519 Camaro convertibles for the extended 1969 model year. Chevrolet also produced 37,773 RS and 36,309 SS Camaros for the year, but no records of how many SS/RS cars exist, regardless of body style.

PERFORMANCE

0-60 mph: 6.4 sec

1/4-mile ET: 15 sec @ 93 mph

Color image of a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS/RS convertible parked in the desert, rear 3/4 position.

Photo by Jeff Koch

Hemmings Motor News has long served as the publication for those in the know about the collector car hobby. You see a copy of the latest issue in the barber’s shop, and you know that this guy gets it. And while it doesn’t require a secret handshake to become part of that cadre of in-the-know hobbyists, we are giving you a sneak peek at our Black Friday and Cyber Monday deals.

Let’s start with Black Friday, when you can take $10 off any Make Offer or Traditional Classified ad on Hemmings.com. If you’ve been meaning to sell a car, truck, or motorcycle—maybe to make room in the garage for something else in the new year—snap some pictures, write up a description, and take $10 off your ad by entering the code BLKFRI$10 at checkout. Selling on Hemmings.com works, too, with more than 3,000 vehicles going to new homes over the last year.

Next up, on Cyber Monday you can take 10 percent off any merchandise in the Hemmings store. Yearning to look like the guys in our Sibley shop videos with a Hemmings work shirt? Maybe you just need a ball cap, stocking stuffer, or one of our hot-selling 2023 calendars? Browse the shop, tell the Santa in your household what you’d like, and use the code HEMMINGS22 at checkout. We’re also throwing in free shipping on orders of more than $100.

These deals are only available for a limited time. The Black Friday $10 off deal is only available on Friday, November 25, and the Cyber Monday 10 percent off deal is only available on Monday, November 28, so make your list, check it twice, and get ready for savings.

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Ford’s Bronco II isn’t a darling of internet listicles just yet—it’s not one of the “10 4x4s You Should Buy Right Now!”—but its popularity and its value seems to be growing. Prices for Bronco IIs haven’t skyrocketed, however there has been steady, significant appreciation over the last decade. Five years ago, for instance, the average value of a Bronco II was estimated at approximately $7,000, while today that estimate is nearly $14,000. The earliest examples of these compact SUVs are now well over 35 years old, but due to the sheer numbers produced, nice examples can still be found at affordable prices.

At Mecum’s Chicago auction in October, a good-looking ’86 Bronco II Eddie Bauer edition changed hands for $9,800—a solid deal for the buyer and slightly below the $13,383 market average estimated by classic.com as of this writing. Aside from some signs of wear on the cloth upholstery covering the driver’s seat, and some typical aging, the truck’s interior was very presentable and livable. Outside, it wore tan accent stripes over Dark Walnut paint and rolled on the cast aluminum wheels that were included in the Eddie Bauer package.

Standard across the board that year in the Bronco II was the North American-version of the 2.9-liter “Cologne” V-6. These engines (and the earlier 2.8) had a reputation for cracked cylinder heads, but an update rectifying that came in 1989. This can affect the value of earlier Bronco IIs, but there are aftermarket replacement heads available— valvetrain noise is common in these engines as well.

At Mecum’s Harrisburg sale in July, a 1990 Bronco II that looked to be in very good condition inside and out, fetched $15,000— just above the average estimated going rate. Perhaps the higher price paid was due to the later model year and the more desirable updated engine.

Several examples have crossed Hemmings’ auction block recently: a clean-looking 1990 in October 2021 that bid up to $11,800 and didn’t sell; a modified 1988 that is currently listed on HMN.com with the owner accepting offers against on asking price of $23,500; and another modified Bronco II with a four-inch suspension lift and big tires is listed with an asking price of $21,450.

Ford pulled the wraps off its Bronco II in March of 1983 for the 1984 model year. The scaled-down, two-door SUV was greeted with positive reviews and strong sales. By the end of the decade, however, reports of rollover accidents led to dozens of lawsuits. By 1992—two years after the Bronco II was discontinued—Ford was facing nearly $750 million in claims filed by accident victims or their surviving families.

Color bar graph depicting the value of a 1984-'90 Ford Bronco II from 2018 to 2022.

The Bronco II rode on a 94- inch wheelbase and shared its chassis with the Ranger pickup — though the shortest Ranger wheelbase measured 108 inches. For perspective, the Bronco II measured just 1/2-inch longer than the Jeep CJ-7 and it was six inches shorter than the S-10 Blazer.

The four-wheel-drive Bronco II and the new-for-’86 two-wheel-drive version rode on independent front ends with coil springs. The two-wheel-drive used a version of Ford’s Twin I-Beam front end while the 4x4s had Ford’s Twin Traction-Beam. Out back, under all Bronco IIs, was Ford’s 7.5-inch rear axle with leaf springs. Braking was handled by 10.9-inch discs with single-piston calipers in the front and 9-inch drums in the rear.

For 1986, the Bronco II was offered with the new, fuel-injected 2.9-liter 60-degree V-6 that replaced the carbureted 2.8 powering the ’84-’85 trucks. A Mitsubishi four-cylinder diesel was also offered in the Bronco II early on, but proved unpopular.

A five-speed manual transmission was the base offering (a four-speed in 1984) or buyers could opt for an automatic. The three-speed C5 was the first automatic used, but it was replaced by a four-speed box by 1986. New for ’86 was an optional shift-on-the-fly transfer case called Touch Drive that was paired with automatic locking hubs. A manual shift case with lock-in hubs was still standard issue.

The Bronco II received only minor changes for 1987 and ’88, but the front end got a makeover for 1989. In February 1990, Ford pulled the plug on Bronco II production altogether and it was replaced by the Explorer.

Welcome to IROC REHAB, the new series from Hemmings where we take an ailing 1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z into our Sibley Garage in Bennington, Vermont, and, with the help of some very special partners, give it a new lease on life.

Thirty-five years ago, the Camaro IROC-Z was one of the most sought-after muscle cars on the road. They combined high style, power, and performance in a package that was difficult to match. However, as time and technology marched on, they became overshadowed by the latest and greatest. Now, in 2022, with new parts and technology available, Hemmings has decided to rehab one of the most iconic muscle cars in history to make it perform better in the twenty-first century.

For any aspiring car guy in the early Sixties, hearing the Beach Boys’ “409” on the radio induced dreams of owning one of the big Chevys. Nineteen-year-old Bob Vencevich was one of those young motorheads.

Growing up in North Chicago, Illinois, Bob worked at a gas station in 1963. He owned a 1957 Chevy convertible at the time but, inspired by the Beach Boys classic, he and a friend decided one Saturday to stop by the local Chevy dealer to see a 409 in person.

“I looked around, talked to a salesman, and said ‘I want a 409,’” Bob recounts. “Everyone had a red or white one, but the book had the color chip for a metallic brown. I said that’s the color I’m gonna get.”

He decided to order the car, but the decision wasn’t that easy. “I was leery about it because I was 19, living at home,” Bob says. “What was my mom going to say?”

B&W image of a 1963 Chevrolet Bel Air 409 at a drag strip in action, front 3/4 position, period picture.

But he made a $20 deposit at McCallum Chevrolet in Lake Forest, Illinois, and ordered the 425-horsepower, 409-powered two-door Bel Air sedan that he still owns today. Bob ordered the Bel Air with one thing in mind: He wanted to go drag racing. Why choose the more-expensive Bel Air over a similar Biscayne, Chevy’s lighter, bottom-of-the-line model? Bob says that was an easy decision — he wanted carpet on the floor, not the vinyl covering that came in the Biscayne.

Buying the Bel Air turned into a family affair. Because Bob was just 19 at the time, his older brother’s name was on the order sheet and his mother’s name was on the dealer invoice. And his grandmother was the bank, loaning him the money to make up the difference between the price of the new Chevy and the proceeds from selling his ’57 convertible. “I paid her every week to pay off the loan,” Bob says.

He chose McCallum because the dealer was known for giving discounts for cash purchases. The original invoice confirms that point. With the options that Bob ordered, the price of the Bel Air came to $3,586.82. A $567.70 discount brought the purchase price down to $2,999.12. That’s 16 percent off retail!

Color closeup of the 409 dual-quad engine in a 1963 Chevrolet Bel Air.

Bob Vencevich ordered his Bel Air brand new with the L80-code 425-hp dual-quad 409. This one is a replacement, but dressed appropriately for a ‘63.Photo by Dave Doucette

Here’s what Bob ordered: The 425-horsepower 409, four-speed manual (which included the tachometer), 4.11 Positraction rear axle, and a few creature comforts, including tinted glass, push-button AM radio with rear speaker, two-speed electric wipers, front safety belts, padded dash, and white wall tires. Bob’s color choice — Cordovan Brown — was a one-year option. It wasn’t available on 1962 or 1964 Chevys.

Bob’s special-order Bel Air was produced at the Janesville, Wisconsin GM plant. He ordered the car on June 19 and took possession about a month later on July 13. Just two months later Bob drove the Bel Air to Union Grove, Wisconsin and made his first quarter-mile run.

“I ran high 13s on street tires,” Bob says, “just to see what it would do on the stock U.S. Royals, and it burned them up.”

A month later Bob learned a lesson about the 409’s limits — especially the rpm limits.

“I didn’t know they couldn’t go past 6,000,” he says. “I floated the valves and everything went to hell.”

Color closeup of the carburetors in a dual-quad 409, nestled in a 1963 Chevrolet Bel Air.

Photo by Dave Doucette

The somewhat good news? The dealer replaced the blown 409 under warranty. However, they said they’d do it just once, Bob recalls. Indeed, they didn’t cover the work the second time around, but that came a little later when the replacement 409 died. By that time, Bob was able to take advantage of his then-job as a parts manager at a Chevy dealer. The newer big-blocks were coming online in the late Sixties and Bob acquired a healthy 396 for the Bel Air.

By 1970 he was using a friend’s built 454 for power at the strip. Bob was running mid-11s on 10-inch slicks when another broken-parts situation ended the car’s drag racing career. Bob said he had to launch the car at 8,000 rpm to get it to hook up, but he shifted at 6,000 rpm.

Eventually the torque from the 454 on one of those hard launches broke both axles. The engine went back to a friend and the Bel Air, with barely 11,000 miles on the odometer, was parked. That was about the time Bob and his wife Marilyn bought their first house, so the Chevy was able to rest in the garage until 2014. Numerous people wanted to buy the car, even without the engine, but Bob wasn’t interested.

As time went on and life and work adjusted his priorities, Bob was able to use his job as a GM parts manager to acquire all the pieces required to reassemble a period-correct 409 when the time came to tackle that project.

“I had access to all the GM parts that were available,” Bob says, “Through the late-’70s and into the ’80s, I was collecting parts with the goal of putting it back together. Everything is new, and genuine GM — I used no internal aftermarket parts.”

Color image of the dash, steering wheel, seats, floor, interior and more in a 1963 Chevrolet Bel Air 409.

Bob selected a Bel Air over the Biscayne to get carpeting rather than a rubber mat. The interior remains factory original today, but Bob added a Hurst shifter nearly 60 years ago.Photo by Dave Doucette

Bob and Marilyn moved from northern Illinois to Spring Hill, Florida, during those years. The ’63 moved with them, first inhabiting the Florida home’s garage, then moving to a detached workshop where it shared space with a street rod that Bob built in the ’90s. There it hibernated until Bob succumbed to several years of encouragement from a nephew to bring the Bel Air back to life.

In 2013 his nephew journeyed to Florida, and with Bob’s help, loaded the ’63 and all the accumulated parts into a trailer for the trip back to Illinois, where the engine was reassembled. Bob spent two months at his nephew’s home working on the project.

Bob is clear to point out that the car you see today is not restored — it’s reassembled. The engine is new, but period correct. The rest of the car is original — paint, interior, trim pieces, chrome… Other than the engine, the only non-original parts are the synchronizers in the Borg-Warner four-speed and the replacement axles.

The new powerplant is based on a 1964 409 block, Bob says, since the ’63 409 block was a one-year design because of the camshaft. The heads are era-correct, as is the aluminum intake and the two Carter AFB four-barrel carbs.

Two items, though, are not stock from 1963. Early in the car’s racing career, Bob realized that the stock shifter was not up the high-stress shifts on the drag strip, so he replaced it with an iconic Hurst shifter. The chrome wheels on the car today were not an option in 1963, but Bob’s work in the Chevy parts department turned up the chromed steel wheels as a dealer-installed option in 1964.

Color closeup of the tachometer and steering wheel center in a 1963 Chevrolet Bel Air.

Photo by Dave Doucette

How rare is Bob’s ’63? It’s hard to tell, because available production numbers from those early Sixties years are not as precise as they became later in the decade. However, there are hints in some of the data. If published numbers are somewhat accurate, there were more than 135,000 two-door sedans produced in the 1963 model year. There were nearly 17,000 409 engines that year in all horsepower ranges.

Numbers for the L80 option — the 425-horsepower 409 engine — indicate just less than 4,400 were produced. There doesn’t appear to be any data on how those L80 options were distributed among Impalas, Bel Airs, and Biscaynes.

So, considering the lack of detailed production breakouts, it’s not clear how many 1963 Chevys like Bob’s rolled off the assembly line. But when you consider that Bob’s Bel Air is a one-owner, 18,000-mile survivor, you’d be hard pressed to argue that there’s another one like it.

While the drag racing career of Bob’s 409 Bel Air is over, it’s still racking up the miles — just not in quarter-mile bursts. Bob and Marilyn now enjoy driving the car to local car shows and cruise nights.

Color closeup of a wheel and tire on a 1963 Chevrolet Bel Air 409.

Photo by Dave Doucette

SPECIFICATIONS

PRICE

Base price: $2,610.45

Options on car profiled: 425-horsepower engine, $376; four-speed transmission and tach, $236; tinted glass, $37; push-button radio and rear speaker, $75; two-speed electric wiper and washer, $17; front seat belts, $18; padded dash, $18; white wall tires (800-14), $35; Positraction rear axle, $43.

ENGINE

Block type: Chevrolet Mark I “W-series” OHV V-8, cast-iron block and cylinder heads

Displacement: 409-cu.in.

Bore x stroke: 4.3125 x 3.5 in

Compression ratio: 11:1

Horsepower @ rpm: 425 @ 6,000

Torque @ rpm: 425 @ 4,200

Valvetrain: Overhead, solid lifters

Fuel system: Two Carter AFB four-barrel carburetors, aluminum manifold, mechanical fuel pump

Electrical system: 12-volt

Exhaust system: Dual exhaust

TRANSMISSION

Type: Borg-Warner T10 four-speed manual

Ratios: 1st/2.20:1 … 2nd/1.64:1 … 3rd/1.31:1 … 4th/1.00:1

DIFFERENTIAL

Type: Chevrolet third-member type with Positraction limited-slip

Ratio: 4.11:1

BRAKES

Type: Hydraulic, single-circuit, unassisted

Front: 11 x 2.75-in drum Rear: 11 x 2.5-in drum

SUSPENSION

Front: Upper and lower control arms, coil springs, shock absorbers

Rear: Four-link-type with upper control arm, lateral control bar, two lower control arms, coil springs and shock absorbers

WHEELS & TIRES

Wheels: Chromed stamped steel (dealer-installed option in 1964)

Front/Rear: 14 x 6 in

Tires: Bias-ply white wall

Front/Rear: 8.50/D14

PRODUCTION

During the 1963 model year, Chevrolet produced 135,636 full-size two-door sedans and 16,970 409 V-8 engines; of those engines, 4,394 were L80-code 425-hp versions. It is not known how many two-door sedans received the L80 409/425-hp engine.

Color image of a 1963 Chevrolet Bel Air 409 parked in a rear 3/4 position on a parking lot.

Photo by Dave Doucette

Your week is off to a great start because you made the time to check out this week’s Hemmings Auctions Roundup. Forty-six new listings ran through our online auctions between Sunday, October 30, and Saturday, November 5, and we saw a sell-through rate of 80 percent. Of the 37 that sold, nine were post-auction Make Offer listings. View the latest consignments and consider placing your bids after subscribing to the daily Hemmings Auctions newsletter.

1966 Pontiac GTO convertible profile top up

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1966 Pontiac GTO convertible undercarriage

1966 Pontiac GTO convertible window sticker

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1966 Pontiac GTO

Reserve: $47,000

Selling Price: $53,550

Recent Market Range: $54,110-$75,550

The GTO was arguably at its stylistic zenith in 1966 when this convertible was built. It’s stood the test of time and been reborn as a restomod with a Tri-Power-topped, overbored 455-cu.in. V-8 under the scooped hood and a console-mounted four-speed between bucket seats. The custom red paint was called an “8” on a scale of 10; the white vinyl top was recently fitted; and the Parchment vinyl-upholstered interior sported a wood-rim wheel, vintage-look modern stereo, and accessory gauges. Cragar mags added a period touch. The seller promised this Pontiac was rust-free, and it was said to be a fine-driving head turner. Three videos and ample photos helped the GTO sell as a relative bargain.

1963 Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray front quarter

1963 Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray interior

1963 Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray cargo area

1963 Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray engine

1963 Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray undercarriage

1963 Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray rear quarter

1963 Chevrolet Corvette Sting Ray

Reserve: $115,000

Selling Price: $131,250

Recent Market Range: $118,150-$145,450

A color change to Riverside Red from its factory-sprayed Daytona Blue during a 1989 rotisserie restoration was the sole alteration to this promised otherwise-correct 1963 Corvette Sting Ray. The split-window coupe was a rare, very basic example believed to retain its original 327-cu.in. V-8 and three-speed manual, which have motivated the car a mere 1,875 miles over the past 33 years. Such little use accounts for its “no flaws” cosmetic condition of paint, brightwork, and red vinyl interior. The chassis appeared clean, although the tires were of indeterminate age. A seller willing to answer questions, plus the fine presentation of this classic Chevrolet, helped it hammer for a tidy sum.

1997 Land Rover Defender 90 NAS front quarter

1997 Land Rover Defender 90 NAS interior

1997 Land Rover Defender 90 NAS rear seats

1997 Land Rover Defender 90 NAS engine

1997 Land Rover Defender 90 NAS undercarriage

1997 Land Rover Defender 90 NAS rear quarter

1997 Land Rover Defender 90

Reserve: $82,500

Selling Price: $86,625

Recent Market Range: $83,110-$105,550

The “North American Specification” Defender 90 was a short-lived import in the late 1990s that, as years passed, became more and more valuable. This 1997 model presented like new in site of the 103,000 miles on its odometer thanks to a 2017 repaint in the factory Coniston Green color, blemish-free vinyl interior interior, and detailed undercarriage. Alterations from stock included the fitment of LED headlamps and taillamps and a CD-changer-equipped stereo system. The 4.0-liter V-8 and automatic transmission were said to operate without issue, and only minor surface rust was divulged on the chassis; the tires were recently installed. This Land Rover neatly sold in its expected market range.

2013 Cadillac CTS-V front quarter

2013 Cadillac CTS-V coupe interior

2013 Cadillac CTS-V coupe manual shifter

2013 Cadillac CTS-V coupe engine

2013 Cadillac CTS-V coupe undercarriage

2013 Cadillac CTS-V coupe rear quarter

2013 Cadillac CTS-V

Reserve: $25,000

Selling Price: $32,550

Recent Market Range: $23,110-$34,350

The combination of two doors and three pedals made the second-generation CTS-V a bona fide collectible right out of the showroom. This example, which sold as a Make Offer listing, was a two-owner car with little over 98,000 miles on the odometer. Its supercharged 556-hp 6.2-liter V-8 was driven moderately, the seller promised. The limited-slip differential was rebuilt and suspension control arms replaced. It was divulged that areas of the body were repainted due to hail damage, but minor blemishes remained. The leather/Alcantara upholstery showed minor bolster wear on the driver’s seat and the driver’s floormat was likewise affected. If carefully kept, the Cadillac will likely appreciate.

1943 Willys MB Jeep profile

1943 Willys MB Jeep interior

1943 Willys MB Jeep front seats

1943 Willys MB Jeep engine

1943 Willys MB Jeep undercarriage

1943 Willys MB Jeep rear quarter

1943 Willys MB Jeep

Reserve: $25,000

Selling Price: $29,925

Recent Market Range: $21,110-$32,450

Willys was churning out MB jeeps by the boatload during World War II, and it’s probably safe to assume none were as carefully finished as this restored U.S. Army example, which appeared to have driven right out of 1943. It was promised to be rust-free, its olive drab paint a fine complement to the new canvas top, and its accessories included a jerrycan and military antenna. Canvas-upholstered seats and a functioning heater were the only nods to comfort. The 60hp four-cylinder and manual transmission were said to function without leaks or issue, and no problems with the brakes or suspension were noted. Bidders responded enthusiastically, and after an impressive 53 bids, it got a new home.

1958 Chevrolet Corvette front quarter

1958 Chevrolet Corvette interior

1958 Chevrolet Corvette engine

1958 Chevrolet Corvette undercarriage

1958 Chevrolet Corvette soft top

1958 Chevrolet Corvette rear quarter hard top

1958 Chevrolet Corvette

Reserve: $147,500

Selling Price: $156,975

Recent Market Range: N/A

The number of fuel-injected first-generation Corvettes that Chevrolet built was very small in proportion to total model production, and this Panama Yellow ’58 was reportedly one of 144 built that combined that engine with the heavy-duty brake and suspension options. Promised to be numbers-matching from the factory, its rebuilt 290-hp V-8 and four-speed manual gearbox with fresh clutch were said to be “strong and powerful.” The fiberglass body’s two-tone paint were described as “above-average driver quality,” and a body-color hard top and interior-matching soft top were included. The black vinyl seats looked fresh, like the undercarriage. It ultimately changed hands as a Make Offer listing.

Ancient Roman mythology states that the deity Mercury was a wing-footed messenger who had a knack for gracing mortals with financial gain. But there was so much more to Mercury than fiscal prowess and communication. This Roman god was also known for eloquence, guiding travelers, establishing boundaries, providing luck, and — truth be told — a little trickery. Kind of fitting, then, that Ford Motor Company’s mid-market division was bequeathed with both the deity’s name and likeness when organized during the late Thirties. It was an upscale traveler as comfortable as a messenger in flight that alluded to financial success without blatantly flaunting it. It was only later that the trickery trait emerged.

Color image of a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute parked in a front 3/4 position.

Color image of a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute parked in a front 3/4 position in front of trees.

Color image of a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute parked in front of a building, head-on position.

Color image of a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute parked in a near profile position in front of a silo.

Dearborn’s mid-level division, named for the wing-footed messenger, was intended as a cut above Ford-branded vehicles, and the Mercury line offered a broad variety of options on many of its models during the 1960s that could increase both comfort and performance, often discreetly. Mercury’s more exclusive mid-market muscle cars were also produced in fewer numbers, yet that didn’t mean there was less demand among gearheads, then or now.

“Back when I was about seven or eight years old, my dad, Jeff, bought a used 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente. It was a 289-powered car with an automatic transmission, and the power — what I knew of it then — and the looks were what got me hooked on the Mercury brand,” Chambersburg, Pennsylvania’s Curtis Thomas explains. “At about the same time, I took a real interest in the A/ and B/FX cars that the big names were racing back in the day. I couldn’t help but fall in love with Mercury.”

A mechanic and auto body restorer by trade today, Curtis kept his Mercury ownership dreams alive — twice. “I bought my first Mercury when I was 15: a 1964 Cyclone with a 210-horse engine under the hood, with an automatic on the column. It had black bucket seats and a Polar White paint job. After I fixed it up, I drove it around for a while and eventually sold it,” Curtis states with a hint of longing. He adds, “I had been wanting another Mercury since. Something that could fulfill a vision I had of a B/FX racer. All you see today are A/FX style cars; you don’t see much B/FX stuff at shows.” The trick to meeting a second ownership goal, and turning his vision into reality, was to build up a fiscal nest egg, so as to be ready when the right subject came along. That effort was aided by another of Ford’s creations, the Fox-body Mustang. During off hours, Curtis would put his mechanical expertise into further practice by buying a pony in need, fixing it up, and then flipping it for profit. He repeated this nearly a half dozen times, until one day…

Color closeup of the engine bay in a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute, 260 V-8 overbored to a 302.

Color closeup of the carburetor under the air cleaner in the engine bay of a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of the hood and hood scoop on a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of the hood and hood scoop on a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of the Mercury Roman god logo on the fender of a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of Crane Cams stenciling on the front fender of a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

“Two years ago, I was sitting at home scrolling through social media when I spotted this 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente two-door hardtop for sale in Harrisburg. That’s close enough to me, so I drove up there to check it out. The car had been painted Yellow Mist at the factory and was sold new in Harrisburg, but by the time the seller got his hands on it, the body was weather-worn with patina and looked green because of all the muck on it — it was very dirty. Originally, there was a 260-cu.in. V-8 under the hood, but in its place was a warmed-up 302. And it was an automatic column-shift car, but this guy had gaffed a Hurst Quarter-Stick into the cabin. The decklid had been spray-bombed with cheap primer for some reason, and the wheels were wearing Cyclone hub caps.”

Curtis quickly saw the potential, even though the seller had lost interest. “While I was looking the car over, it came out that the seller — the second owner — had bought it thinking he was going to turn it into a lowrider. The first thing he did was cut the floor up for the Quarter-Stick, but then he changed his mind and wanted a ’62 Impala instead.” This certainly worked in Curtis’s favor, and he didn’t hesitate.

“I’m really good at seeing through a mess and visualizing what something will look like before I even put a wrench to it. It had taken years for me to find one that had almost zero rust, so yeah, it was dirty, but there was almost no rot,” Curtis reports.

Color closeup of the front passenger's side corner of a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of the head lamps, driver side, on a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of the tail lamps, tail panel and trunk script "Comet" on a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of the rear quarter window on a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute. Stickers and various decals.

Color closeup of the trunk lock and emblem on a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of the rear passenger side quarter and wheel/tire on a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of the passenger side front wheel/tire and fender on a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of a performance decal on the back glass of a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Finding the Comet for sale could be chalked up to a combination of patience and kismet. Years earlier, while Curtis was detailing cars at Conners Auto Sales fresh out of school, a Chevy pickup arrived wearing a Curtis Ford Mercury front plate (Pennsylvania issues only rear license plates) — a dealership that had been in Harrisburg. Curtis kept the plate, as it bore his name, and hung it in his garage for posterity. Years later, with the newly acquired Caliente hardtop stowed in the same garage, a simple vision morphed into something far more meaningful, as Curtis explains.

“My dad and I were brainstorming one Saturday afternoon and told him what I’d like the car to look like. He said, ‘Why don’t you put Curtis Mercury on the side because it’s your name, it’s a Mercury, and you have that old license plate. Both came from Harrisburg, so if you put it all on the car, it all ties together.’ That was it. After finding a profile of a white ’64 Comet online, I printed out an enlarged image and sketched out how I wanted the exterior to look.”

Curtis launched into his project by subjecting the Comet’s exterior to a pressure washing, followed by a thorough scrubbing of the interior, the latter of which was enough to eliminate the need to source new upholstery. Curtis was also able to analyze the condition of the Mercury’s brightwork — only a single gauge bezel within the cabin needed to be restored. Focus then shifted to the mechanical design.

Color image of the interior, dash and more from the passenger side of a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of the steering wheel, dash and dash cluster in a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of the switches, steering wheel knob and cluster in a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

“The car ran okay, but I really wanted to make sure it would last. Fortunately, the seller knew all the details, so it was a matter of simple double-check and some visual adjustments,” said Curtis, going on to explain, “The block was a 302 with a .040-inch overbore, so it worked out to 308 cubic inches of displacement. He used Edelbrock aluminum heads with 1.6:1 roller rockers, along with a cam profile that was close to the hi-po units Ford used. He also had an aluminum Edelbrock intake installed with a 600-cfm Holley.

Curtis wanted the Comet engine to have the right look as well. “I swapped the valve covers for real-deal 289 “hi-po” units, and put them on with spacers so that there would be room for the aftermarket rockers. I also bought a reproduction hi-po air cleaner assembly. The only thing someone did wrong was paint the engine blue; they were black in ’64, but I can address that later,” Curtis says.

“What bugged me was the condition of the floor after the transmission swap. My eventual plan involved the installation of a four-speed, but to keep the budget down at the time, I opted to keep the Hurst Quarter-Stick automatic shifter in place. The transmission has a 2,600-rpm stall converter and a shift kit, and I’m okay with that right now.”

Even though he was sticking with the automatic, Curtis still kept an eye toward the future. “The other thing I needed to do was swap out the steering column — that still had all the automatic stuff hanging out of it — with a column from a floor-shifted ’65 Mustang. Then I cleaned up all the rough metal cuts in the transmission hump in a dimension that will allow for the four-speed. It’s one less thing that needs to be done later.”

Color closeup of the glovebox and dash area in a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of the rear seat and racing helmet in a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

Color closeup of the front bench seat in a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

But there were other things for Curtis to attend to immediately. “Something I was able to change right away was the rear axle gearing. The car was fitted with ‘airplane gears’ at the factory and the seller had purchased a set of 4.11s for the 8-inch differential. I wanted to make sure this Comet had not only the right visual attitude but the right track attitude. So, I put the 4.11s in. Then I cut the springs in the back to get the tail end to drop a bit for that classic Sixties drag-strip stance. Up front I installed 90/10 drag shocks so that I’d get a little extra lift during a launch. For traction, I swapped the stock rear wheels for a pair of 15 x 6-inch steelies from Coker, along with M&H drag slicks. At the other end I installed American Torq Thrusts with Firestone ‘pie-crust’ tires.”

All the purpose-built attitude would be for naught were it not for a matching exterior. With the “patina’d” exterior providing a perfect canvas, Curtis reached out to his friend, Glen Shaw, a.k.a. “Pooch,” to manage period lettering weathered to match the paint. Simultaneously, Curtis color-matched the body, enabling him to paint not only the gray primered trunk lid, but also a recently purchased teardrop fiberglass hood; the original was safely stowed. A final touch on those two panels was a layer of satin clearcoat.

Finally, there were but a few interior tweaks that needed to be addressed. The first was the installation of a period-correct Moon tachometer and a Stewart Warner oil pressure gauge, the latter a true representation of what Ford installed in its high-performance cars during the era when new. Second was a period racing helmet that was found and, eventually, emblazoned with “Junior” — Curtis’s nickname.

“We finished the Mercury a month before the Ford Nationals at Carlisle. I didn’t trailer it there, I drove it. She’s pretty snappy on the street. So far, Carlisle is the furthest I’ve driven it. That drive up Route 11, rather than the interstate, was a hike for her with those 4.11s. At 50 mph I was already tachin’ 3,000 rpm!” Curtis relates with no regrets. “It’s such a fun ride. It handles better than I thought it would for a tribute racer. If you don’t mind taking your time getting somewhere, it makes for a great day behind the wheel.”

Owner’s View

Color image of the owners posing in front of their 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute.

I haven’t raced the Mercury yet. I would need to put seatbelts in it since it never had any when it was sold new, though period racing belts would be ideal. As built, I think it should run in the low 14s or high 13s in the quarter-mile. The goal, however, is to take it to the next level for that A/FX vibe. That means getting a Ford FE 427 with dual quads feeding it. But right now, I love driving it. People wave and come up beside to say they haven’t seen one in years. My plan is to enjoy it for two years, then get to work putting the FE in, and then enjoy it on the track.—Curtis Thomas

SPECIFICATIONS

ENGINE

Block type: Ford “small-block” 302-cu.in. V-8, cast-iron block, Edelbrock 5.0, cast-aluminum cylinder heads, 60-cc combustion chambers

Displacement: 308 cubic inches

Bore x stroke: 4.04 x 3.00 inches

Compression ratio: 10.0:1

Horsepower @ rpm: Unknown

Torque @ rpm: Unknown

Valvetrain: Manley stainless 2.05/1.60-in, intake/exhaust; Speed Pro hydraulic lifters

Camshaft: Speed Pro CS-1020R; hydraulic

Induction: Edelbrock Performer 289 cast-aluminum intake, single Holley 650-cfm four-barrel carburetor; Ford OE mechanical pump

Lubrication system: Ford gear-type pump

Ignition system: Ford breaker-point

Exhaust system: Hooker headers; custom 2.50-in dual exhaust; dual Flowmaster mufflers

Original engine: Ford 260-cu.in. V-8 w/ 2-bbl. carburetor

TRANSMISSION

Type: Ford C-4 automatic; Hurst “Quarter-Stick” shifter

Ratios: 1st/2.46:1 … 2nd/1.46:1 … 3rd/1.00:1 … Reverse/2.20:1

DIFFERENTIAL

Type: Ford 8-inch, Traction-Lok limited-slip

Ratio: 4.11:1

STEERING

Type: Ford recirculating ball, power-assisted

Ratio: 16:1

BRAKES

Type: Ford hydraulic, unassisted Front/Rear: 10 x 2.50-inch drums

SUSPENSION

Front: Ford independent, unequal length control arms; coil springs; 90/10 shock absorbers, anti-sway bar

Rear: Ford solid axle; altered semi-elliptic leaf springs; telescoping shock absorbers

WHEELS & TIRES

Wheels: American Racing Torq Thrust (front); OE-style stamped steel (rear)

Front: 15 x 4.0 inches Rear: 15 x 6.0 inches

Tires: Firestone (front); M&H (rear)

Front: 5.60-15 bias-ply Rear: P235/60R15 radial slicks

PERFORMANCE

1/4-mile ET, factory-stock: 19.0 @ 75 mph* (Motor Trend, 8/63)

1/4-mile ET, current best: N/A

Current 60-foot time: N/A

* Tested vehicle was 1963 Comet S-22 fitted with a 164-hp 260-cu.in. V-8, four-speed manual transmission and a 3.50:1 final drive ratio; 0-60 mph time was 11.50 seconds.

Color image of a 1964 Mercury Comet Caliente modified tribute parked in a rear 3/4 position in front of a building.

Photo by David Conwill

For seemingly decades, the Goodguys Rod & Custom Association, that rolling cross-country custom-car show series with a magazine attached, had a nothing-after-1972 rule. But time marched on, and one day in the new millennium, suddenly the game changed: now it was nothing after 1987.

This meant emissions-era machines could be here for the first time: big-bumper anything, Colonnade GM A-bodies, the last of the full-size leviathans, the first of the downsized generation, and the early vestiges of Detroit’s power and performance resurgence. Were they outside of the hot rod and custom brief? Depends on the car, of course. Was there an outcry then? We don’t remember one if there was, but the crowds at the events we’ve gone to all seem perfectly happy to be there.

1997 Chevrolet Camaro SS

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Today, years later, it’s only right and proper that the event update the rules, allowing now-vintage rides like Fox-body (and many SN95) Mustangs, LT1-powered fourth-gen F-bodies, trucks of all marques (including early redesigned Dodge Ram pickups), Vipers, and lots more interesting machinery. Plenty of these have been modified, and are still being tweaked. Entire businesses are dedicated to servicing a single marque in order to make those machines quicker, prettier, grippier, and/or more comfortable. There’s still nothing newer than 25 years old allowed through the gates (which seems to run counter to an earlier policy change to a rolling 25-year cutoff, similar to the AACA’s); it’s just that time has marched on, and the ever-sliding scale of what’s 25 years old has moved forward. Will there be an outcry now? (We hope not, although scores of anonymous keyboard warriors will doubtless make their opinions known.) Goodguys has a vested interest in keeping its membership rolls chock full of people (70,000 is the number we keep hearing), so bringing in younger enthusiasts and catering to their tastes is a good way to keep the numbers up. They’re not going back. Good for them.

Will street rods get squeezed out? Of course not. Whether pre-war, street-rod, kustom-with-a-K, and custom lead-sled iron turns up at the events is entirely up to the people who own them and want to go to the events. Wherever they go, Goodguys is the biggest game in town, and is a great way to get as many regional eyeballs on your ride as you can stuff into a sunny weekend. Frankly, anyone looking at a Goodguys show as strictly a street-rod show will be disappointed. The events we’ve visited have frequently skewed heavily to the muscle era, even after the age limit was raised to 1987, with ‘50s steel a distant second. Expanding the parameters all those years ago didn’t flood the show fields with newer machinery then, and it won’t do so now that 1997 is the hard limit. These newer cars and trucks will simply become part of the rich tapestry of old-car enthusiasm in our hobby. People will still bring what they like, it’s just that Goodguys is casting a wider net now.

1994 Ford Lightning

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It meets younger enthusiasts on their own turf: Instead of trying to convince da yoofs of liking what you like, Goodguys is letting in the kind of stuff that they are drawn to, that they remember fondly and with glowing nostalgia. If the kids like lead sleds, cool. If they liked slammed pickups, sweet. If they remember their uncle’s fourth-gen Z28 six-speed and want to see some just like it, awesome. If they’re into new million-dollar hypercars full of bleeding-edge tech, well … Goodguys has to draw the line somewhere.

Goodguys wisely recognizes that the generation who are into ‘80s and ‘90s cars, the kids who drew them in their school notebooks and fantasized about peeling out of the high school parking lot behind the wheel of one, the kids who have warm memories of those machines, are now grownups with families and are coming into their prime spending years. Getting that generation hooked now, showing them that this is an inclusive hobby, can only yield dividends.

1994 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme

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The last Goodguys event of the calendar will be the 25th Speedway Motors Southwest Nationals at WestWorld of Scottsdale November 18-20, 2022, in Scottsdale, Arizona. Their next events in 2023 will start the ’97-and-younger rule. We can’t wait to visit some Goodguys events next year and see what marvelous machines this change flushes out.